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A Conversation with Artimus Pyle of APB - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Tuesday - July 08, 2003

Artimus Pyle and APB

Artimus Pyle and APB
Hey kids....hello NY and everywhere else. Welcome back to the Birdcage. As some of you know, I used to work in radio here in New York and in Pittsburgh. I spent many years working at nightclubs as a DJ. The band that first grabbed me when I was a kid was Lynyrd Skynyrd. They are the reason I decided I needed to be in music. There were other bands I enjoyed....but Skynyrd was special. So when I got the chance to do an interview with Artimus, I jumped on it figuring that some of you would be interested.

I'm sure those of you who love music have a band or two that just seems to sing to you. Lynyrd Skynyrd did just that for me. When the plane went down in 1977 I felt as if I'd been robbed. At the very height of their success it ended in a terrible tragedy. However, the music was so strong.....Skynyrd fans wouldn't let it die and the members who survived needed to keep playing. After several other projects the band reformed. Almost 30 years later and the band still tours, records and keeps the old tunes alive. But tragedy is never far away when it comes to Skynyrd. Allen Collins survived both the plane crash and a deadly car crash only to lose his life later as complications from both crashes set in. Leon Wilkeson passed away after years of drugs and alcohol. And the fighting....between band members, wives, lawyers and managers have taken a terrible toll.

It was my intention to do a nice fluffy puff piece on the band and Artimus. In all honesty, I never wanted to discuss any of the negative issues with him. But as my research concluded and Mr. Pyle began to speak....I knew it was impossible to talk about the great Lynyrd Skynyrd and not talk about them. 90 minutes after we began, Artimus invited me to hang out some time. If I ever get the chance....I certainly will. Heck, I'm honored he even asked !

 APB
We discussed things other than Skynyrd....like his band APB, A show APB performed three days after 9-11 at the Stone Pony as well as Stevie Ray Vaughn and family. But each time I thought I'd heard everything, Artimus would tell me about something else I was not aware of, and often it was more tragedy. That's not to say it wasn't a fun conversation. Right off the bat I knew I liked Artimus and I admire him more now than before. We both have a passion for great music and a love for those taken from us way too soon. After a few minutes I felt like I was speaking with an old friend.

Ever since the interview was recorded I have struggled to find the time and the correct method to publish it. It occurred to me that it would only work if the whole thing was just put out there. No editing, no attempt at hiding anything. So, what I've done is transferred the recording into two MP3s for you to download and play. I recommend Winamp if you need a player. What you'll get is the complete conversation we had on June 10th, 2003.

I'm going to give you some highlights of parts one and two for those who may not want to download a pair of 11 meg files.

Part One: Size: 11.3mgs (approx) Download

I asked Artimus about his time in the US Marines and how it's effected his life. His response included a description of his days in the Core as well as how it helped during the aftermath of the plane crash. We spoke about how the studio recordings were put together and then how the band transformed those recordings into one of the best live shows of any time.

Ticket stubs to the 1991 show at the Beacon in NYC and Jones Beach

tix

We then discussed several different live shows I had seen or listened to. The 1979 reunion, the 1987 tribute tour and then the 1991 album and tour. During this tour I saw the band at the Beacon Theatre in NYC. To this day it was the finest show I have seen by anyone at anytime....and I have seen some of the best bands of our time. Ten days later I was at Jones Beach to see them again. Artimus had left the band. Here's where the story gets uncomfortable. Artimus felt strongly about carrying on the names of Ronnie Van Zant, Allen Collins, Steve Gaines, Cassie Gaines, Leon Wilkeson and Dean Kilpatrick in an honorable way. It's his opinion that abuse of drugs and alcohol by the band needed to stop or at least slow down. When it got to be too much, he left.

I should add that I have seen the band's most recent line up several times. The first tour Skynyrd did with Hughie Thomasson and Rickey Medlocke as official members was the only time I didn't walk away satisfied. Frankly, the show was short and badly performed. The next time around it was clear that they had some time to practice a bit....and it was much better.

Part one ends with a discussion on family.

Part Two: Size: 10.8mgs (approx) Download

Part two opens with Artimus suggesting his life become the subject of a movie. The Plane crash is talked about again. Cameron Crowe is mentioned as a possible director. We then moved on to the tragedy that happened at the club in Rhode Island with Great White.

Next, Artimus answers the Gary Rossington claim that he fled the crash site as opposed to the tale that has been told for years that Artimus went for help and saved lives. It made no sense to me that after repeating the same story for years that Mr. Rossington would choose to say this on the VH-1 Special "Un-Civil War" and I found his comment deeply disturbing. Artimus went for help....and that's a fact.

I visited Ronnie Van Zant's Gravesite

Ronnie's Grave

Next, I asked Artimus about the site where Ronnie Van Zant was buried before it was disturbed. I visited the grave on Oct. 21st, 1992. I had a feeling that some presence had overcome me. Instinctively, I knew exactly where to go as we entered the cemetery A photograph taken by my brother showed a strange artifact coming out of Ronnie's stone.....I have no explanation for what happened there except something did happen. Artimus then explained that he has felt a presence and describes his visits there. So you know, I don't make a habit of visiting graves.....but Ronnie and Skynyrd will always be special to me.

An un-altered image taken at the site

Ronnie

Live from Planet Earth is a live CD available at Artimus' site. I own it and recommend it to any fan of Skynyrd or APB. As Artimus says....it rocks. We talk about the recording of that CD at the House of Blues in Orlando.

We next discussed the difference between the lyrics of Ronnie Van Zant and the more recent recordings. Artimus reads to me a Rolling Stone article reviewing Vicious Cycle, the newest Skynyrd release. He then alleges that some of the songs on 1991 were not written by those credited. I was shocked by this claim and greatly disappointed. While I enjoy the new CD (Vicious Cycle) I now see how weak the songwriting is when compared to the songs penned before Street Survivors. Perhaps that's not fair to say....but there it is.

Mama (I'm afraid to say goodbye) still brings tears to my eyes. This track from the 1991 lp is a powerful song. Download the mp3 to listen to it.

I asked Artimus about being interviewed by a Hockey website and he revealed that his Dad was a big fan of the game. This is followed by Artimus responding to my offer of an open segment, to say anything he wanted to the fans of Skynyrd, APB and Hockeybird readers. He covers a lot of different topics including how some people in Jacksinville Fla. wanted to take down these young, wealthy rock stars. Where there is money, lawyers and thieves are sure to follow.

While I was surprised by the subject matter during this interview which was painful at times....I have a huge amount of respect for Artimus Pyle. He could have continued to ignore the indiscretions of the rest of the band and collected tons of money. He threw that away based on his principles. An honorable act to say the least.

Artimus' wife, Kerri Hampton-Pyle does the html work for the APB website and it can be found here.

I want to thank Artimus and Kerri for their generous time in doing this interview. I am honored that Artimus would agree to do this even though Hockeybird is not a music site.

----}- Bird

Posted by Bird at July 08, 2003 02:13 PM
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Comments

great piece,and I believe him artie, more than the other clowns in the current skynyrd, which is shit.

Posted by: steve campanelli on August 3, 2003 02:32 PM

Thanks for taking the time to download and listen to the interview.

It was a great pleasure to do....and I hope to speak with or see Artimus sometime in the future.

----}-

Posted by: Bird on August 3, 2003 03:17 PM

Anyone who thinks that Lynyrd Skynyrd today is any less of a band they should go see them in concert. Rolling Stones Review was complete BULL!
Vicious Cycle is GREAT!
Artimus left not for the drugs but because of his own issues. Besides why would the GREAT Lynyrd Skynyrd want to have the press surrounding Mr. Pyle and the charges he was facing for child molestion. Weather they were truth or not they still exsisted.
Gary Rossington is a CLASS ACT!

Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd TODAY ROCKS! on September 10, 2003 08:17 PM

ARTIMUS PYLE IS AGOOD MAN. ON 10/4 MY FRIEND TIM SPENT TIME WITH ART AT EOLA AMPITHEATER IN ORLANDO WHERE A.P.B PERFORMED. TIM'S BROTHER SERVED IN THE MARINE CORPS WITH ART. TIM'S BROTHER JUST PASSED AWAY,ART LEARNING OF HIS BROTHERS DEATH DEDICATED FREE BIRD TO HIS MEMORY THIS REALLY UP LIFTED MY FRIENDS HEART. ARTIMUS HAS A GIFT MANY WISH THEY HAD,THAT IS TO CARE AND HELP ANY WAY YOU CAN. ROSSINGTONS CLAIMS ARE UNFOUNED GARBAGE. ART IS THE TRUE SPIRT THATS LEFT OF THIS GREAT BAND.
RICK BOOK

Posted by: RICK BOOK on October 6, 2003 12:32 PM

ARTIMUS WAS A HUGE PART OF LYNYRD SKYNYRD
BUT LIKE SOME MARRIAGES,SOME PEOPLE ARE
BETTER OFF AWAY FROM EACH OTHER. I HAVE
HEARD BOTH SIDES OF THERE FEUD AND I DON,T
SIDE WITH ANY OF THEM.
SKYNYRD ALWAYS HAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE
MY FAVORITE BAND , NEW AS WELL AS OLD.
MAYBE THEY CAN HAVE A "40" OR "50"
ALBUM WITH ALL OF THEM NOT BICKERING
I FOR ONE WOULD BUY IT.
ROCK ON FOREVER/IF YOU COME TO BALTIMORE
I WILL BE THERE.


ROCKIN ROGER

Posted by: ROGER LEAR on November 11, 2003 10:47 AM

Whoever thinks everyone in Lynyrd Skynyrd is a "clown except for Artimus" should really re-think thier story. Just remember who is carrying on the tradition.

Posted by: Cheyenne on December 8, 2003 07:15 PM

Please what garbage. Lynyrd Skynyrd today is the real deal! Arti God Love him just can't let go!
GARY, JOHNNY, BILLY, HUGHIE, RICKEY, MICHAEL, EAN, CAROL & DALE ARE LYNYRD SKYNYRD!

Posted by: Die Hard Skynyrd Fan on February 17, 2004 03:09 AM

Artimus is right, and wrong. Gary is right, and wrong. Both are good, loving humans, but they see things differently. I was on the plane when it crashed, and though I'd been knocked unconscious and can't 'prove' this statement, I am _certain_ Artimus went for help. The "old" Lynyrd Skynyrd IS the real deal, and the "new" Lynyrd Skynyrd IS the real deal. They've changed and grown with the passage of time, and with the events they have had to endure, just as we all have done in our own lives. They are a great band, just as they've always been a great band, and I'm glad they're still creating and still playing.

Posted by: Paul Welch on February 18, 2004 05:08 AM

I think skynyrd sucks without artimus and ed.

Posted by: ron on April 7, 2004 08:20 PM

I think skynyrd sucks without artimus and ed.

Posted by: ron on April 7, 2004 08:22 PM

I just want to say that Skynyrd was & is the best band ever. Whatever happened or didn't happen is history. They are still carrying on the legacy that RVZ started & they're doing a damn good job of it. Why else would they still sell millions of records & pack concert halls & venues. The current lineup is the BEST since before the crash. Times change & so does music. They've changed with the times & it's all for the better. I hope they never stop making music.

Posted by: Ricky Vowell on April 7, 2004 08:24 PM

I have study and study stuff about Skynyrd they are my favorite band and always will be. Personally I like everyone in the original Skynyrd and the new Skynyrd. I don't see how anyone here can take sides with either Gary or Artimus even though Gary is my favorite guitar player. Nobody except the band and Dean Kilpatrik and the Pilot and Co pilot were on the plane so nobody should be taking sides with anybody plain and simple. P.S. Gary Rossington if you read this I was was 4th row seein you december 8th, 2003, you can still rock and I play the same style guitar as you do.
"A Candle, both ends burning.
An endless mile, a bus wheel turning.
A friend to share a lonesome time, a handshake and a sip of wine.
Say it aloud and let it ring, that we're all apart of everything.
The future, present, and the past.
Fly on proud Bird, your free at last."

Posted by: SKYNRD FAN SINCE AGE OF 5 on August 16, 2004 02:00 AM

i think gary is full of bull s ronnie would be whipping garys ass if he were still around get with it gary your no rvz not now not ever

Posted by: james on January 8, 2005 08:06 PM
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